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colby
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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gfloyd wrote: | Its all very safe and dependable. Comfort radio that doesn't step outside the boundaries. |
If that's the case, it's much of a muchness when compared with the regular occupant of the chair. Evans stays within his own comfort zone and doesn't stray outside boundaries either - he's dead scared not to behave like an overgrown kid who cannot regard his listeners as anything other than stupid. Quid pro quo?
It's certainly nice not to be talked to in a loud voice. Thank heavens for audio compressors, eh?
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Mark Mayhew
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Ernie-Perhaps you could evidence your bizarre comments with precise examples of when Allinson (he has a christian name-Richard, so perhaps you could be more respectful in your postings) re "his weird way of saying the wrong thing when speaking to other human beings".
Clearly over many years you have posted many anti Richard Allinson comments.
I eagerly await your response/am all ears. |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3612 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | Simon lives in Walberswick in Suffolk which is about two hours from London by car. |
How do you even know that? Are you his stalker?
(I know I am - I literally follow him all the time). |
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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Ian Robinson wrote: | mark occomore wrote: | Simon lives in Walberswick in Suffolk which is about two hours from London by car. |
How do you even know that? Are you his stalker?
(I know I am - I literally follow him all the time). |
Wikipedia states where he lives. I do know it's away from London. |
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gfloyd
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 4861 Location: Here, There, Everywhere.
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Mark Mayhew wrote: | (he has a christian name-Richard, so perhaps you could be more respectful in your postings) |
I dont know the man, so I would have assumed NOT using his christian name was actually more respectful _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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MadeinSurrey
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:48 am Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | Ian Robinson wrote: | mark occomore wrote: | Simon lives in Walberswick in Suffolk which is about two hours from London by car. |
How do you even know that? Are you his stalker?
(I know I am - I literally follow him all the time). |
Wikipedia states where he lives. I do know it's away from London. |
Oh it MUST be true then _________________ MiS |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Simon M is quite good at this DJ stuff - he's been doing it while now, so he should be, he's no Chris Evans but he 's ok. My hubby was at Uni at the same time as Simon at Warwick- they both worked on W963 I think it was called then. The Uni Radio Station. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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You must admit would Radio 2 have given two weeks of Drivetime to another broadcaster, if he or she was announced to be in line to take over Ken Bruce etc? |
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MadeinSurrey
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Simon Mayo has not "been announced to be in line to take over Ken Bruce".
I doubt whether Ken needs to be taken over, and if it's his show you're referring to, let's just wait and see. As Ken himself said, he's going to be around for some time yet. _________________ MiS |
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colby
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | You must admit would Radio 2 have given two weeks of Drivetime to another broadcaster, if he or she was announced to be in line to take over Ken Bruce etc? |
I have the feeling that I'm not alone in failing to comprehend the above statement Mark. Care to elucidate? _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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Helen May
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Must admit I'm enjoying listening to Drivetime for the first time in a long while. I've got to the stage where as much as I usually enjoy Richard Allinson I don't care for him on Drivetime as it's almost the same manic mayhem as it is with Chris Evans.
I really enjoyed the nice long interview about Christian the lion tonight, I miss them the most on Drivetime I suppose.
The main problem is I've got out of the habit of listening to radio at that time so I've been forgetting to switch on until part way through the show. Glad he's on for 2 weeks though.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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BDG
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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I really do not understand why everyone is so obsessed with re-slotting people or think that they even want to be re-slotted.
Chris has matured, he may not be everyone's cup of tea but I personally think he does a good job on drive time, I never thought I would say that as I hated his Saturday show but he does IMHO.
In particular with RA how does Mark know that he isn't quite happy doing what he does and has no desire whatsoever to take a permanent daily slot on R2?
The same goes for JW he opted to leave the Drivetime slot he wasn't pushed out, he didn't want to work everyday 5 days a week. Who can blame him?
I don't think either that JW's drivetime slot was without it's manicness either, it was certainly present because it is tied into that time of day. One only has to recall his complete loss of control when he got into highly amusing episodes with Sally. |
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colby
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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He still shouts and behaves like a demented teenager. Given that he's over 40, that's a bit sad. Just listen to his really, really infuriating trails. Insufferable. _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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BDG
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19406 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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BDG wrote: |
The same goes for JW he opted to leave the Drivetime slot he wasn't pushed out, he didn't want to work everyday 5 days a week. Who can blame him?
I don't think either that JW's drivetime slot was without it's manicness either, it was certainly present because it is tied into that time of day. One only has to recall his complete loss of control when he got into highly amusing episodes with Sally. |
Johnnie was pushed out as it says as much in his autobiography. He didn't want to leave the show.
I don't like what the show has become with the stupid kids phoning in and the women and their cars (heard it twice in the car) but it's been listenable with Simon Mayo. Guess I don't like 'family' radio I prefer 'adult' radio...........
Don't get me started about the trails. I'm waiting for them to design a radio that I can pre programme it to recognise non wanted voices and exterminate them before they are allowed to speak!
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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colby
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Helen May wrote: | Johnnie was pushed out as it says as much in his autobiography. He didn't want to leave the show. |
Absolutely right. He writes about how he went to Lesley Douglas and suggested that he'd like to consider the option made to him some time previously of returning to Drivetime only to be told, quite unequivocably, that "Drivetime was no longer an option" for him. In other words, she had already done a deal to bring in a new permanent presenter in the slot.
What's interesting is that JW obviously isn't a "kiss and tell" writer; many people in that position would have let rip about those apparent fools who ran R2, but Johnnie manages to hold back. All credit to him.
Perhaps, after the fact that cancer brought him close to death, other things were felt to be more important.
It's such a shame that his permanent replacement was somebody who is so annoying! _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:24 am Post subject: |
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colby wrote: | He still shouts and behaves like a demented teenager. Given that he's over 40, that's a bit sad. Just listen to his really, really infuriating trails. Insufferable. |
He, Chris gets high ratings and most people love his show, and I enjoy most of the time. Yes, the BBC shouldn't be about chasing ratings, but thats they way the radio climate has changed! I know he shouts, but thats his personality and you can't change him now. |
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colby
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:22 am Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | I know he shouts, but thats his personality and you can't change him now. |
I don't want to change him - I'd just like to see (or hear) the back of him that's all. I don't care if he gets high ratings - it just shows that many people are quite happy to put up with any old rubbish with silly phone-ins and childish games being just two things that gullible listeners are happy to listen to. Not me! (And I'm not alone). _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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MadeinSurrey
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:38 am Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | colby wrote: | He still shouts and behaves like a demented teenager. Given that he's over 40, that's a bit sad. Just listen to his really, really infuriating trails. Insufferable. |
He, Chris gets high ratings and most people love his show, and I enjoy most of the time. Yes, the BBC shouldn't be about chasing ratings, but thats they way the radio climate has changed! I know he shouts, but thats his personality and you can't change him now. |
"Most people love his show"??
They most certainly do NOT!! what are his listening figs - maybe 6 million? There are 60 million people in the UK.
As was said earlier, how I miss the thoughtful and considered interviews that used to be a part of Drivetime, in John Dunn's day it was a joy to listen to. _________________ MiS |
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colby
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Yes, the word "most" does indeed imply a majority! _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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Helen May
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:04 am Post subject: |
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MadeinSurrey wrote: | As was said earlier, how I miss the thoughtful and considered interviews that used to be a part of Drivetime, in John Dunn's day it was a joy to listen to. |
I meant to mention John Dunn in my post as well MIS ! They made my daily commute bearable on many an occasion and you often learned some interesting facts. JW's were also interesting.
The interviews are much missed even though they were often to promote a tour or a book. I'm not complaining, as after hearing Bobby Vee and Brian Hyland on JW's Drive, I got seats to see their Solid Gold 60s show in Manchester and it was superb. Little Eva, Johnny Tillotson, Freddie Cannon et all. They were dancing in the aisles to them!
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Chris Evans is unique, I don’t mean that in the, “everyone is different” sense because we are but lots of different DJs can/could host an enjoyable Drivetime show and they’d all sound fairly similar. Chris’ show is different because of him; he’s the only person that can do it, like he does. A bit like Marmite perhaps – you either love him or hate him but like Marmite there’s enough of the former to make keeping the shelves well stocked a profitable venture. Yummy!
I think the “most” Mark referred to was “ most of the people whom listen to drivetime” enjoy the show, not most of the people in the country. |
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colby
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Rachel wrote: | Chris Evans is unique, I don’t mean that in the, “everyone is different” sense because we are but lots of different DJs can/could host an enjoyable Drivetime show and they’d all sound fairly similar. Chris’ show is different because of him; he’s the only person that can do it, like he does. |
Regardless of my own view of the person in question, I do agree with you on that point, Rachel.
Rachel wrote: | I think the “most” Mark referred to was “ most of the people whom listen to drivetime” enjoy the show, not most of the people in the country. |
Just being a bit naughty! _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | Chris gets high ratings |
He gets the same ratings as JW (and Maconie, when he stood in for JW). It's the slot, not the presenter. |
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Angela W
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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I used to listen to Drivetime every day, but since the Ginger Whinger made it his own I only listen when he is not on it. I can't stand his style of 'presenting' for more than a few seconds which is a shame because I like the music. When some actually gets played that is! _________________ Pirate Johnnie Walker played my request on 11 April 2009 |
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MadeinSurrey
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hear Hear! _________________ MiS |
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colby
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I've been listening to Simon Mayo in the car this evening (whereas I would normally tune away from Evans the second I hear his stupid, nerve-grating, voice) and I think he's well suited to the slot. There's still too many phone-ins with silly people telling us what they're going to be doing over the weekend (like I really give a monkeys?) and the pace is a little bit faster than with Mayo's other shows (but not as insufferably OTT as the 40-year-old teenager) but at least he doesn't treat his audience with contempt.
Much better, even if it's short-lived. _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I’ve listened to Simon Mayo, pretty much every night while he’s been covering, and he’s ok –not bad, I’d venture as far as saying, he’s rather pleasant– he fits nicely into that group of DJs that I mentioned earlier but he could equally have been Richard Allinson, Mark Goodyear, Stuart Maconi or any of the other generic off the shelf formulaic presenters.
It’s rare to find someone who is as different as Chris Evans – we’re privileged to have him on Radio 2, it's such an extravagance not to listen to his show. |
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Lord Evan Elpuss
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Rachel wrote: | It’s rare to find someone who is as different as Chris Evans |
Thank heavens for that!!
Rachel wrote: | we’re privileged to have him on Radio 2. |
That's the kind of privilege I can do well without! Give me 'generic off the shelf formulaic presenters' who talk to you and don't shout at you any time! Rachel, I'm more than happy to share in your enthusiasm for Alex Lester, he is indeed a great broadcaster, but you can keep the 'ginger whinger'! _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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colby
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Rachel wrote: | I’ve listened to Simon Mayo, pretty much every night while he’s been covering, and he’s ok –not bad, I’d venture as far as saying, he’s rather pleasant– he fits nicely into that group of DJs that I mentioned earlier but he could equally have been Richard Allinson, Mark Goodyear, Stuart Maconi or any of the other generic off the shelf formulaic presenters. |
I'd substitute "generic off the shelf formulaic presenters" with the words "presenters who are more inclined to respect their listeners' intelligence and less inclined to treat them as idiots" personally.
Rachel wrote: | It’s rare to find someone who is as different as Chris Evans – we’re privileged to have him on Radio 2, it's such an extravagance not to listen to his show. |
I'd feel more privileged to be given a regular presenter who is more respectful of my intelligence and who is less inclined to assume that I'll put up with any old juvenile crap, to be honest. Evans is paid a lot of money in return for behaving like an overgrown teenager who is obsessed with trivia. I pride myself in having higher expectations - and that's why I refuse to give him the benefit of my hearing between the hours of 5-7.00pm weekdays.
Simon Mayo doesn't regard my intelligence with contempt, and for that reason he gets my vote. _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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RockitRon
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: |
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I like Simon Mayo. Of those generic, off-the-shelf, formulaic presenters he's the one this shortarse can reach. Born not a million miles from where I was, started with the Beeb at my local station, in the good old days when they played music as well as telling you which part of the borough missed its rubbish collection yesterday, consumate professional, doesn't talk all over the first 90 seconds and interrupt the last 90 seconds of a standard 3.42 pop song, and not afraid to use big words like indigenous even though half the people who normally text or ring in are unlikely to understand what they mean
However, just think back, those of us who rail against the Chris Evans hectoring, jump-up-and-down-wave-your-Calvin Kleins-in-the-air style, and who have been waxing lyrical about Pirate Johnnie Walker and the halcyon days of pop music radio as we know it.
During the day (Radio London) had Tony Blackburn, Tony Windsor, Dave Dennis, Ed Stewart, Kenny Everett...
Ah, our beloved Ken. Now, which of that lot is the Chris Evans among the Terry Wogan, Ken Bruce, Jeremy Vine and Steve Wright? How did we feel when he was off on shore leave and it was Richard Allinson or Stuart Maconie, sorry, Mike Lennox or Duncan Johnson, filling in?
He's only carrying on a tradition established 45 years ago, and it boils down to what sort of radio you want at that time of the day. Do you want a chap who sounds like a schoolteacher, giving us a history lesson, as he did on Tuesday, about the origin of Springsteen's Pay Me My Money Down, referring to the credit crunch, and coming out with the line "and if part of you didn't move to that, NHS Direct is just around the corner", or do you want the bloke who's like your crazy cousin and sounds as though he's been taking those purple wake-up pills, who will be dancing on the ceiling and urging you get up off your arris to join him. _________________ Ron |
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essexlady
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:38 am Post subject: |
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I definitely do NOT want the crazy cousin taking the purple pills on my radio at any time of the day or night |
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colby
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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RockitRon wrote: | ....do you want the bloke who's like your crazy cousin and sounds as though he's been taking those purple wake-up pills, who will be dancing on the ceiling and urging you get up off your arris to join him. |
In a word "no".
Do I get a prize for the correct answer? _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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Fog on the Tyne
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I don't know whether a full time music show would satisfy Mayo right now - especially seeing as he's just won an award for "proper broadcasting".
His 5Live show is excellent (the only thing worth listening to on the current 5Live day time schedule) and it allows him to stretch himself and induldge his intrest in politics.
5Live's move to Salford might change things though,I think he'd be great in either the Drivetime or Ken Bruce's slot but he'd be a HUGE loss to 5Live - they can't seem to find anyone to cover for him successfully. _________________ The wheel keeps on turning...
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Minx
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I thought SM sounded distinctly uncomfortable last night on the "phone-in" feature. He's not the guy to deal with all those loony hyper women who seem to call in on Fridays, and I felt very sorry for him having to demean himself in that way.
But I like him in the slot, just lose the daft features and it will be fine. _________________ Minx
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Helen May
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Minx wrote: |
But I like him in the slot, just lose the daft features and it will be fine. |
I'm with you on that one Minx!
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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colby
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Helen May wrote: | Minx wrote: |
But I like him in the slot, just lose the daft features and it will be fine. |
I'm with you on that one Minx! |
Me too. Couldn't agree more in fact. The childish Evans-inspired features really have to go. _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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I don't "get" this charge of Chris Evans being childish. He's exactly the same age as myself , as near as makes no difference, he says and does things in the same way that I do. He's lively, exciting and a wee bit bouncy, but not childish. He may be childlike at times but that is a good thing. |
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Minx
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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So what do you find exciting about him Rachel? _________________ Minx
To err is human, to forgive - canine. |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Minx wrote: | So what do you find exciting about him Rachel? |
Well not in that way Minx.
I like the way he is able to enthuse his team and listeners to an almost infectious degree of mania about what are in reality quite normal everyday things but which when presented in his exciting way, provide a common vehicle for the listeners to identify with at a person in the street level. In a nutshell he talks about everyday things in a way that makes them interesting, leaving listeners with the thought that their lives aren’t that bad after all.
In a, “ did you hear Chris Evans talking about growing potatoes last night- wasn’t it fab?… You know, I grow potatoes too”, kind of way. |
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