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nod
Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: Terrys response.. |
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Anyone else getting a bit fed up of TWs response to criticism of the BBC, eg Eurovision fiasco, Songs of praise etc etc ?. He just seems to make comments such as 'no one died' or 'the papers have nothing better to write about', which to me simply misses the point that listeners / viewers think they are being conned. |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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No, I agree with him. |
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Ella Sailyour
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 579 Location: Marbella, Spain
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with him, too. The red-top press have always had the BBC in their sights and they're hell-bent on taking a pop at any opportunity. I feel sorry for their gullible readers who assume this is the way that they should think as well.
I see neither the Eurovision Song Contest nor the Easter Songs of Praise as being a con. Why should they be? The ESC is a camp farce (that's why many of us watch - it would be boring if it weren't) and the Easter Songs of Praise is the result of good production planning, something which is very common in broadcasting. Licence-fee payers (and the red top press) would soon be moaning if the Beeb wasn't using such prudence. So what's the problem?
Good on yer Terry - keep at 'em.
Ella _________________ This week's $64,000 question: Why am I so gorgeous, possums? |
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nod
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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I don't read the red tops so that isn't where I'm coming from. I just don't like his smug attitude of 'we are right and you are all wrong, so tough', the same way they trivialise issues / complaints on Points of View.
Having an Easter service made in November, by changing the audiences coats etc, doesn't sound right to me. |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see the problem with when they film anything, it's like complaining that Roy Wood recorded 'I wish it could be Christmas everyday' in August.
It's a complete non story. |
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Ella Sailyour
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 579 Location: Marbella, Spain
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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nod wrote: | Having an Easter service made in November, by changing the audiences coats etc, doesn't sound right to me. |
It's not that different to the recording of lots of Christmas TV shows in August, September and October though. The only live TV at Christmas is national and regional news and a few other bits.
Blimey, even Jools Holland's New Year's Eve Hootenanny is pre-recorded!
Ella _________________ This week's $64,000 question: Why am I so gorgeous, possums? |
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nod
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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You'll tell me TW was recorded for Xmas Day next |
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Ella Sailyour
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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nod wrote: | You'll tell me TW was recorded for Xmas Day next |
Well, actually....................
Ella _________________ This week's $64,000 question: Why am I so gorgeous, possums? |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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nod wrote: | You'll tell me TW was recorded for Xmas Day next |
Well, whatever next |
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gfloyd
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 4861 Location: Here, There, Everywhere.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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The problem with Terry is that he likes to dish out criticism but cant take it himself very well. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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The other problem is a lot of people don't understand his humour. |
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nod
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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I think I do. |
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Behind Geddon's Wall
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1553 Location: Kingston Upon Hull/ The Cloud Factory
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Atvleast terry is standing up for the BBC, which is more than a lot of his more well-paid colleagues have done. There is proper news out there, the fact that the BBC had a bit of sense and used the opportunity to use such a well-known Cathedral for both Christmas and Easter is not news - it's good use of the Licence fee.
The money grubbing commercial sector has forgotten the true meaning of easter in an attempt to grab more of our money. _________________ Geddon
You simply mustn't blame yourself -- the days were perfect
And so were exactly what I was born to spoil
For I am the Rider to the World's End
Bound across the cinder causeway
From the furnace to the quarry
Through the fields of oil |
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nod
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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I may have been fooled for years and it's now coming to light BUT I would expect an Easter service on the TV at Easter to be that, not a service filmed in November when it was cheap for the BBC, and I am sure a lot of others think this as well.
I also expect other 'live' programmes to be live as well, but it now appears from the pudding vote fiasco this is not in fact the case either. |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19391 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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I can't see the problem with it. The same people would be moaning at the cost if it were live. If it's recorded and nothing specific needs to mentioned, I can't see a problem with where or when it was done.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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nod
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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That will be OK then as long as they don't mention anything specific like it isn't Easter |
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iwarburton
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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I may have been fooled for years and it's now coming to light BUT I would expect an Easter service on the TV at Easter to be that, not a service filmed in November when it was cheap for the BBC, and I am sure a lot of others think this as well.
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I think you'll find that CDs of Christmas Carols are recorded in summer, so that they can catch the pre-Christmas market.
Does that make them any less authentic?
Ian. |
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nod
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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recorded in the summer !! |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I still don't see what the problem is, oh well. |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Toggy tea slurper wrote: | I still don't see what the problem is, oh well. | what if some of the audience have a crisis of faith in the meantime? _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Ella Sailyour
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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And the Christmas ranges of most of the major high street retailers in the UK were selected in January, especially those that publish thick catalogues.
Planning is good!
Ella _________________ This week's $64,000 question: Why am I so gorgeous, possums? |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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They have easter eggs on the shelves on Boxing day which to my mind is far worse than what the BBC have done here. |
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Lord Evan Elpuss
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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How about 'Christmas special' edition of shows being broadcast in the middle of summer. That seems to have become a pretty regular occurrence within the last 10 years or so, when previously they were only trotted out at Christmas. _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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Mark Mayhew
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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For once/the first time ever I think I agree with Nod.
Wogan is indeed smug-he has been that way for donkey's years.
It's his manner which I don't like-he thinks he's above everyone else and feels he is untouchable by the BBC. He should NOT be critical of his employer regardless of his personal views.
Sorry old boy you are on the way out. |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Mayhew wrote: | For once/the first time ever I think I agree with Nod.
Wogan is indeed smug-he has been that way for donkey's years.
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Actaully he's far from smug, having met him on more than one occassion I can safely report he is a very nice genuine guy.
Besides leave him alone, he's ill, bless him. |
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Mark Mayhew
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Ill-what kind of ill? |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Chest infection or chesticles as Ms kennedy calls it.
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Ella Sailyour
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Toggy tea slurper wrote: | Actaully he's far from smug, having met him on more than one occassion I can safely report he is a very nice genuine guy.
Besides leave him alone, he's ill, bless him. |
He's what you might call "self-depracating", which is quite endearing. When he worked in broadcasting, Mr. S. actually played golf with El Tel a couple of times and reported him to be a lovely person. I believe him! (I do find his radio shows a bit boring of late, though).
It might signal the need for a change on breakfast in favour of a presenter who doesn't treat his/her audience like idiots. Which would automatically exclude Evans.
Ella _________________ This week's $64,000 question: Why am I so gorgeous, possums? |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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He is nice, honestly!
I think the program has been better this week, even Alan Boyd spoke this morning
Boggy is popping in to say hello next week. |
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nod
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Toggy tea slurper wrote: |
Boggy is popping in to say hello next week. |
Wow, the excitement of it all |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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I like Boggy, I think he's rather sweet |
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