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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: New Schedule announced! |
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From Media Guardian:
Mark Radcliffe and Stuart Maconie are getting a prime time evening slot on Radio 2 as part of a shakeup that sees specialist shows pushed to the margins of the schedule.
Radcliffe, who currently presents a nightly 90-minute show at 10.30pm, will get an extra half an hour of airtime when he is partnered by Maconie between 8pm and 10pm from Monday to Thursday.
The station has also signed up Radio 1 veteran Steve Lamacq to present a weekly show when the new schedule comes into effect on April 16.
Radcliffe and Maconie will be broadcast live from Manchester and play a role in Radio 2's coverage of occasional live events such as Cambridge Folk Festival and the BBC Jazz Awards.
Its prime time status means Paul Jones's rhythm and blues show and Mike Harding's folk show move forward an hour to 7pm on Mondays and Wednesdays respectively.
Specialist shows such as Big Band Special on Mondays and Nigel Ogden: The Organist Entertains on Tuesdays are being moved back to 10pm.
Also relegated to the 10pm slot are reggae and alternative 60s shows, which will appear on Wednesdays, and rock'n'roll programming on Thursdays.
The station's "ad hoc" music documentaries will now be heard later in the evening, at 10.30pm on Tuesdays and at 11pm on Wednesdays and Thursdays.
Nick Barraclough is to present a series of specials on country music in place of his hourly Wednesday night country show, which comes to the end of its run on April 11.
Sounds of the 70s, presented by Cockney Rebel singer Steve Harley, is being moved from 10pm on Tuesdays to a graveyard midnight slot on Thursdays.
The start of Janice Long's nightly show is being moved back from midnight to 12.30am.
Lamacq's new show will occupy the 11.30pm slot on Wednesdays. The DJ will continue working for Radio 1 and 6Music.
Desmond Carrington's Tuesday show, Music Goes Round, and the Bob Harris country music show on Thursdays will remain in their 7pm slots.
Radio 2 controller Lesley Douglas decided to shake up the schedule after veteran bandleader Humphrey Lyttelton announced he would present fewer Best Of Jazz programmes.
Lyttelton will return to the airwaves in July when he takes over the 10.30pm slot on Monday nights from Jools Holland. The pair will alternate every three months.
"I am delighted to be able to give both folk and rhythm and blues earlier slots, giving both vibrant genres a high profile," Ms Douglas said.
"Mike Harding and Paul Jones brilliantly reflect their respective music scenes. Country music remains high on the network's agenda - with Bob Harris's regular country show complemented by Nick Barraclough's new specials, which will give a platform to the breadth of country artists."
http://media.guardian.co.uk/radio/story/0,,2041426,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=4 |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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My first thoughts are that it's all a bit of a mess that Lesley has (as usual) rushed into. |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Its a mess. The specialist shows are being margalised to the middle of the night. Basically she is putting Maconie & Radcliffe directly against Geoff Lloyd on Virgin. Its just the BBC trying to play commercial again. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Behind Geddon's Wall
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Specialist music is not the stuff to listen to on final wind-down. Mrs G and I regularly listened to Mark in the late evening. His (and Others) comments were well received.
I doubt that going head to head with the large commercial stations from 7 to 10 is such a good Idea. It also gives the controller's true opinion of specialist music.
Now may be the time to get an aerial and invest in DAB. _________________ Geddon
You simply mustn't blame yourself -- the days were perfect
And so were exactly what I was born to spoil
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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I love the way the Controller has finally done what I suspect she's always wanted - and blamed Humphrey Lyttleton! |
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Nickherts
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that its a bit of a mess with the specialist shows being split in two. The Album Chart show looks a potential casualty.
More logical would be:
2.00 Steve Wright
4.30 Chris Evans
6.30 Stuart Maconie
8.00 Specialist Programmes
10.30 Mark Radcliffe |
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Lady Boil De Spudswell
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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All looks pretty dreadful to me, particularly the bonkers decision to shunt Sounds of the 70's to midnight! Why keep it at all if that's the regard you show for it?! At one point it was going to be extended remember?!
Still no Baker then Lesley?... Ah well, roll on quarter 3... doubtless for more unedifying disappointments. _________________ Who Can Take A Sunrise, Sprinkle It With Dew... |
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John W
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Ian Robinson wrote: | I love the way the Controller has finally done what I suspect she's always wanted - and blamed Humphrey Lyttleton! |
I don't think she has. I think MediaGuardian have badly worded that paragraph.
It should have said ......this announcement follows last week's announcement that....
Humph's change in fact is just part of it all, Humph let the cat out of the bag last week, in my opinion.
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mcl
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote: | All looks pretty dreadful to me, particularly the bonkers decision to shunt Sounds of the 70's to midnight! Why keep it at all if that's the regard you show for it?! At one point it was going to be extended remember? |
I'm glad to see The Organist Entertains is still on (it was the show that got me into R2 in the first place!), but much as I like it, the fact it's got a better slot than Steve Harley is totally bewildering - shurely Sounds of the 70s is far more in tune with the audience R2 is trying to attract than Nigel Ogden, bless 'im? _________________ "....you're wearing a plywood bow tie with Dundee United on it?" |
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John W
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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For me Steve Harley's late late show is the only disappointment. I think he deserves a weekend slot in place of Ross or Dermot.
I don't see much wrong with this schedule. At last we have a regular mid-evening programme that looks at how popular music is progressing, with the two greatest most appropriate presenters, Maconie and Radcliffe, and it's on at the same time as all the rubbish TV.
The next stage, in two years time, will be to move those guys even earlier, starting drivetime. Evans can have Wogan's slot for all I care
And then we'll have specialist shows from 7.30- midnight
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Mark Mayhew
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Very disappointed to see the news about Steve Harley being shunted off to 12 o'clock midnight.
Another programme I won't be listening to live anymore-I have to be up at 5.30am each day so sadly I'll have to listen via the Listen Again feature if I remember.
All in all I will be tuning in less to Radio 2 over any given week-I'll certainly be trying out Smooth in future where at least the presenters I like are given decent airtime slots. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Does this mean Stuart will not be able to cover for Chris know more? Why are they putting two good broadcasters together? Does this mean when they are covering shows they can work on their own?
It looks like they are playing with commerical radio as they tend to have high profile shows running up to 8pm and past.
It doesn't look like a big major shake up just adding an early evening show between the specialist shows? |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | Does this mean Stuart will not be able to cover for Chris know more? |
Every cloud has a silver lining.
They must be running out of cover jocks for daytime now though. No Goodier, Parsons, Maconie or Allinson. Who is left? _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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OMG! We might get Pete Mitchell covering the daytime shows. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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gfloyd wrote: | mark occomore wrote: | Does this mean Stuart will not be able to cover for Chris know more? |
Every cloud has a silver lining.
Allinson. Who is left? |
Allinson drafted in to cover shows. Pete Mitchell yeah.......... |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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The decision to pair up Radcliffe and Maconie at 8pm probably does Stuart a lot of favours - he can probably get back home to Birmingham after a show with less hassle than when he has to be in London.
I'm very much looking forward to that show, although I would prefer it to be later when there are less demands for my time.
I'm sad that The Album Chart Show appears to be going, as it's one of my favourites. One of the few shows on the station that actually tells you about new stuff out that week (though I suppose Maconie & Radcliffe will cover that).
But the rest just seems a mess: they should put the comedies and 30 minute shows between 7 and 8, with the specialists at 10 every day. And what's the point of an utterly random Steve Lamacq show shoved in there? |
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essexlady
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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At least it means I can LIsten Again to the Stuart and Mark show between 5p.m. and 7p.m. as I don't usually listen to Radio 2 between 8 and 10p.m. Is Stuart keeping his Saturday show? |
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mark occomore
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Ella Sailyour
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'm tempted to say there's always "Listen Again" - but, in truth, there's not a lot to "Listen Again" to. Is there?
And what's with stuffing Steve Harley over to the graveyard shift? Is he the next to get the shove?
It's hopeless. And Radio 2 is fast becoming a lost cause.
Ella _________________ This week's $64,000 question: Why am I so gorgeous, possums? |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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John W wrote: | Ian Robinson wrote: | I love the way the Controller has finally done what I suspect she's always wanted - and blamed Humphrey Lyttleton! |
I don't think she has. I think MediaGuardian have badly worded that paragraph.
It should have said ......this announcement follows last week's announcement that....
Humph's change in fact is just part of it all, Humph let the cat out of the bag last week, in my opinion.
John W |
I do think he let the cat out of the bag - but she's definitely blaming him, as if the schedule would have remained the same if he was staying on. It was just the excuse she needed.
Simon Mayo at 11.30pm? Comedy at 11.30pm? It's just ridiculous - they're not "wind down" shows before bed, they're blatant attempts to get us all "listening again" - though God knows why! |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Ian Robinson wrote: | John W wrote: | Ian Robinson wrote: | I love the way the Controller has finally done what I suspect she's always wanted - and blamed Humphrey Lyttleton! |
I don't think she has. I think MediaGuardian have badly worded that paragraph.
It should have said ......this announcement follows last week's announcement that....
Humph's change in fact is just part of it all, Humph let the cat out of the bag last week, in my opinion.
John W |
I do think he let the cat out of the bag - but she's definitely blaming him, as if the schedule would have remained the same if he was staying on. It was just the excuse she needed.
Simon Mayo at 11.30pm? Comedy at 11.30pm? It's just ridiculous - they're not "wind down" shows before bed, they're blatant attempts to get us all "listening again" - though God knows why! |
Is Ernie right trying to hit the commerical radio networks? ( smooth for one? ) |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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I'd agree with Ernie that it's a commercial line-up. Not just up against Smooth, but similar shows on Virgin, Century, and even 6Music.
On the other hand, I can see it complimenting my speech listening on Radio 4 and BBC7 (which isn't too bad a thing).
It's all these half-hour starts that are messy. |
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Mark Mayhew
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Unless I have missed the news is Stuart still keeping his Saturday Show? |
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Lady Boil De Spudswell
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: Full Schedule At A Glance |
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Whatever that entails! It's just a rag-bag of a re-vamp with a load of shows she doesn't really want to keep swept under the rug that is a late night slot. Plus there's even more of our old friend the clunky half-past the hour show start/finish.
TV may be going to the dogs, but who is seriously going to sit down at 8pm and listen to Radcliffe and Maconie for two hours?
As someone else here has said, this really is a 'listen again' schedule coz none of the progs are on at a time when the people who might be interested in them want to tune in! (SOTS at midnight! Jeez!) I expect Wogan'll end up here with the same excuse given. _________________ Who Can Take A Sunrise, Sprinkle It With Dew... |
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote: | All looks pretty dreadful to me, particularly the bonkers decision to shunt Sounds of the 70's to midnight! Why keep it at all if that's the regard you show for it?! At one point it was going to be extended remember?!
Still no Baker then Lesley?... Ah well, roll on quarter 3... doubtless for more unedifying disappointments. |
you never know there could be m ore changes announced next week for the weekends.Stuart Maconie might not be doing his saturday show anymore now that hes on during the week.Its interesting too ,that in the 2 weeks leading up to the new schedule Dermot O'leary is doing Ken Bruces show-the first time Dermot has been on during the week.Is it just possible that he could replace Sarah Kenendy on the Dawn Patrol or something/We can only hope! |
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: Full Schedule At A Glance |
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Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote: |
Whatever that entails! It's just a rag-bag of a re-vamp with a load of shows she doesn't really want to keep swept under the rug that is a late night slot. Plus there's even more of our old friend the clunky half-past the hour show start/finish.
TV may be going to the dogs, but who is seriously going to sit down at 8pm and listen to Radcliffe and Maconie for two hours?
As someone else here has said, this really is a 'listen again' schedule coz none of the progs are on at a time when the people who might be interested in them want to tune in! (SOTS at midnight! Jeez!) I expect Wogan'll end up here with the same excuse given. |
The album chart is being axed on radio 2 and radio 6 music-as you know Andrew Collins is leaving 6 Music next weekend.Simon will present the last album chart on monday april 2. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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iain_smith wrote: | Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote: | All looks pretty dreadful to me, particularly the bonkers decision to shunt Sounds of the 70's to midnight! Why keep it at all if that's the regard you show for it?! At one point it was going to be extended remember?!
Still no Baker then Lesley?... Ah well, roll on quarter 3... doubtless for more unedifying disappointments. |
Its interesting too ,that in the 2 weeks leading up to the new schedule Dermot O'leary is doing Ken Bruces show-the first time Dermot has been on during the week.Is it just possible that he could replace Sarah Kenendy on the Dawn Patrol or something/We can only hope! |
Is there a god NOT to put Dermot on Dawn Patrol? Thankfully |
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Behind Geddon's Wall
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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No changes at 5pm,then. More's the pity. _________________ Geddon
You simply mustn't blame yourself -- the days were perfect
And so were exactly what I was born to spoil
For I am the Rider to the World's End
Bound across the cinder causeway
From the furnace to the quarry
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Ella Sailyour
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Ian Robinson wrote: | Simon Mayo at 11.30pm? Comedy at 11.30pm? It's just ridiculous - they're not "wind down" shows before bed, they're blatant attempts to get us all "listening again" - though God knows why! |
Sounds like it's all designed to make it easier to rely on pre-recorded/edited programming at those times of the day, to be honest. Much cheaper, of course, thanks to the new server-based playout systems.
Ella _________________ This week's $64,000 question: Why am I so gorgeous, possums? |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Behind Geddon's Wall wrote: | No changes at 5pm,then. More's the pity. |
No he's not been reshuffled yet to another show. I think he might stay for many years on drivetime. |
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Julia
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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hello guys - quick question...
*Is Stuart keeping his Saturday show?*
(as Mark M says - I'd like to know too please
How did you find this out Ian? keep up the good work!
Julia |
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:58 am Post subject: |
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It's going to be difficult for Stuart to present his saturday show as well as his new shows monday to thursday and his sunday show on six music.I'm betting we'l hear about a new saturday line-up in the days ahead. |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: |
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iain_smith wrote: | It's going to be difficult for Stuart to present his saturday show as well as his new shows monday to thursday and his sunday show on six music.I'm betting we'l hear about a new saturday line-up in the days ahead. |
Please God we will _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Lord Evan Elpuss
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:26 am Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | Behind Geddon's Wall wrote: | No changes at 5pm,then. More's the pity. |
No he's not been reshuffled yet to another show. I think he might stay for many years on drivetime. |
I hope not! He must be about due to throw his toys out of the pram again sometime soon. _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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John W
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Full Schedule At A Glance |
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Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote: |
TV may be going to the dogs, but who is seriously going to sit down at 8pm and listen to Radcliffe and Maconie for two hours?
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I think you are very unaware of many people's evening habits these days. Forget Corrie and 'enders, millions of people are now sitting at the computers from 8pm, like we are now, and at the same time listening to the radio.
It's what I do though often I have on the evening concert from Radio 3 (Performance on 3 now starts at 7.00pm !!) Soon, if I don't like Po3 I can put on Radio 2 at 8pm
and if I don't like SM/MR then later I can put ClassicFM's Nick Bailey on a 9pm
Hey, my free evenings are sorted !
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Mark Mayhew
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I agree John W 100%.
Simply put most evenings TV viewing is rubbish-hence I usually try and find something on the radio to listen to-sadly that does not usually include Radio 2 although I do like to tune regularly into Steve Harley with his 70's show-sadly that is being moved to much later in the evening as a consequence of the reshuffle.
Certainly will give Messrs Maconie and Radcliffe new show a try.
Wonder if a re-jig of the weekend schedules is going to be made shortly. |
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gfloyd
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I doubt Maconie & Radcliffe will play much music. I suspect they will talk a lot, mainly to each other. Would I prefer this or Paul Jones followed by Suzi Q on a Thursday night. I think I know the answer to that one. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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iain_smith wrote: | Its interesting too ,that in the 2 weeks leading up to the new schedule Dermot O'leary is doing Ken Bruces show-the first time Dermot has been on during the week.Is it just possible that he could replace Sarah Kenendy on the Dawn Patrol or something/We can only hope! |
I think it's now very obvious why Dermot's standing in for Ken - because there's no-one else free over the Easter holidays! I expect Maconie would have done it if he hadn't been starting his new show. |
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I'm not sure how to react to all this change. Ultimately I suspect I'll end up listening to less R2 than at present, which appears to be the way of things at the moment.
It would appear that the specialist programmes are being shoved into "Listen Again" territory, which will almost certainly mean that they are ripe for cancellation when the audience figures show big drops in listeners. Like John, I usually listen to the radio when I'm working on the computer, so get to hear the wide variety of output on week nights between 1900 and 2100, however I suspect I won't bother to "Listen Again" to much of the displaced output because ultimately I'm not that bothered about missing "The Organist Entertains" etc. (sorry, Simon) and don't have the time in any case - probably the only one I would try to catch would be Mike Harding's acoustic and folk show.
As for Radcliffe and Maconie - they have a good rapport and undoubtedly will do well together, but I can't help but think LD has amalgamated their shows for a greater purpose, possibly to free up the Saturday schedule for a further shake-up (possibly because the present line-up may not be working) and because she can't see them fitting into a revised weekday line-up as separate entities. To me, this is a pity, as we're getting less airtime with them and the features I like about both shows will no doubt disappear or change out of all recognition.
I could have almost predicted Steve Lamacq getting some sort of slot because he did well sitting in for Bob Harris for a few weeks last year - he's eloquent, knowledgeable and a decent broadcaster. This of course, qualifies him for a graveyard slot as he is not a big name.
R2 is changing out of all recognition at the moment. _________________ Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
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mark occomore
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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iain_smith wrote: | It's going to be difficult for Stuart to present his saturday show as well as his new shows monday to thursday and his sunday show on six music.I'm betting we'l hear about a new saturday line-up in the days ahead. |
A lot of broadcasters work six days a week, it's nothing new as they are young they are able to build up there pension and there listeners. I bet Wogan and Bruce used to do it when they were at there age? |
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