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kengeo
Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 278 Location: Gloucestershire
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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And I thought I was the only one! |
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nod
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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I used to really enjoy his old shows TFI, toothbrush , Saturday afternoons on R2 and even on Drivetime BUT I just can't listen to his hyped up Breakfast Show, I have to switch off.
I've tried 6music but at that time of day its bad as well. R4 or the ipod for me. |
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kengeo
Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 278 Location: Gloucestershire
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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I must admit that I have found Simon Bates to be very listenable this week, its the dam adverts that let it down.
Its a shame that its not on FM nationally, then maybe Smooth could be an alternative, I know I would listen in the car if I could.
When are the next RAJARs due? |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a little surprised that you can't receive Smooth on FM in Gloucestershire
I suppose it depends on which bit you're in but I know reception is good in both Birmingham and Bristol
When I first tried to tune my car radio to Smooth North West I had some problems but I persisted and now I get a good signal although not as good as in the house
If you go to Smoothradio.co.uk and e mail them explaining the problem I'm sure they will do their best to help _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Helen May wrote: | It is Rachel, but I feel very strongly about it. I do hate his show and his voice, and 'Evan's dislikers' didn't sound right as I was typing the message!
I don't hate many things but I'm afraid Evans is one of them.
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Blimey, that’s quite a thing, Helen. Reading that, I’d be devastated in his shoes. He puts in so much effort to his show; he’s so upbeat, lively and positive. And he does all of that knowing that some people feel as you do: I couldn’t do that. |
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kengeo
Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 278 Location: Gloucestershire
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Rachel wrote: | Helen May wrote: | It is Rachel, but I feel very strongly about it. I do hate his show and his voice, and 'Evan's dislikers' didn't sound right as I was typing the message!
I don't hate many things but I'm afraid Evans is one of them.
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Blimey, that’s quite a thing, Helen. Reading that, I’d be devastated in his shoes. He puts in so much effort to his show; he’s so upbeat, lively and positive. And he does all of that knowing that some people feel as you do: I couldn’t do that. |
Devastated? Don't be daft the guy is so think skinned he doesn't give a dam for anyone's opinion other than his own.
As far as upbeat, lively and positive, fine if he were presenting Whackaday, but we are talking about a breakfast radio show aimed at the over 35's. That's the LAST thing I want in the morning, just something to eeease me into the day. |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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kengeo wrote: | That's the LAST thing I want in the morning, just something to eeease me into the day. |
Try Radio 4- that should ease you into old age. |
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kengeo
Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 278 Location: Gloucestershire
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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What sort of music are they playing these days? |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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kengeo wrote: | What sort of music are they playing these days? |
So do you want just gentle music too? What if the music was upbeat and lively? Are you talking about ruling out anything up-tempo? Does it have to be all Matt Monroe and Nat King Cole? Do the Sex Pistols not get a look-in because you want to be eased into your day? |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19391 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Rachel wrote: | Helen May wrote: | It is Rachel, but I feel very strongly about it. I do hate his show and his voice, and 'Evan's dislikers' didn't sound right as I was typing the message!
I don't hate many things but I'm afraid Evans is one of them.
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Blimey, that’s quite a thing, Helen. Reading that, I’d be devastated in his shoes. He puts in so much effort to his show; he’s so upbeat, lively and positive. And he does all of that knowing that some people feel as you do: I couldn’t do that. |
Just because someone makes an effort with something doesn't mean that it's going to be good Rachel. He would never be devastated that I didn't appreciate his efforts, that is for sure!
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Helen May wrote: | Rachel wrote: | Helen May wrote: | It is Rachel, but I feel very strongly about it. I do hate his show and his voice, and 'Evan's dislikers' didn't sound right as I was typing the message!
I don't hate many things but I'm afraid Evans is one of them.
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Blimey, that’s quite a thing, Helen. Reading that, I’d be devastated in his shoes. He puts in so much effort to his show; he’s so upbeat, lively and positive. And he does all of that knowing that some people feel as you do: I couldn’t do that. |
Just because someone makes an effort with something doesn't mean that it's going to be good Rachel. He would never be devastated that I didn't appreciate his efforts, that is for sure!
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He might be devastated that you hate him though. Maybe I’m just too naïve, Hubby says I shouldn’t be allowed out on my own. |
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RockitRon
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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It would depend on whether he considered that you meant "hate" in its original, literal, philosophical and psychological meaning, which implies that you want him harmed, or dead, or merely the modern, media-inspired hyperbolic use of the word to show intense dislike.
So he might obtain a restraining order, or not give it a second thought.
My money's on the latter. _________________ Ron
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BDG
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 202
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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I can understand someone not liking the show etc. and hating it. But how can you possibly hate someone personally you have never met?!!! Not sure that Aitch does actually hate him in that sense, she doesn't like him or the show is my understanding which is fair enough and hates the show. Sure I will be put right if I am wrong |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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I for one can understand exactly what Helen is saying and why she is saying it
It's true that its difficult to hate a person you have never met but you can build up a fair picture of what that person stands for and in the case of CE the agenda seems to be to reduce Radio 2 to the level of CBBC
He needs to grow up and start to realise that he is broadcasting to an audience whose average age is 50 not 10 and the sooner he realises that the better
He should never ever have been given the breakfast slot as what was needed after years of the boring Wogan was a presenter who could appeal to the broad section of Radio 2 listeners
Simon Mayo would have been the obvious choice as he used to do the Radio 1 breakfast show or perhaps Johnnie Walker could have been persuaded to do the show permanently
Sadly a great opportunity to improve on the previous situation was missed and it seems now to have reached the point where CE has more influence than the person who is supposed to be the Controller
He's already ruined Radio 1 and the One Show and he's well on the way to ruining Radio 2 which is why I never now listen before 10am and sometimes I can't be bothered even then _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Blondehedgehog
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 286 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Nice comment ruddlescat....I am with you in all you say _________________ I like hedgehog crisps |
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Lord Evan Elpuss
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Blondehedgehog wrote: | Nice comment ruddlescat....I am with you in all you say |
Me too. Let's not forget that he also knackered Virgin Radio (now known in this country as Absolute (Trash!) _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19391 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Gosh I'm really surprised that so many seem to object to the way I feel, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, about someone who IMHO has had such a big hand in ruining a station that so many of us loved before he set foot in the door.
I'd never wish anyone dead so I'll just leave it at that.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think there are many people who object to the way you feel Helen
It seems to be the usual suspects posting their views who fail to realise that they are in a very tiny minority on this forum
Whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion I get thoroughly fed up of these people trying to make the rest of us feel guilty about what is really no more than them peddling their own minority agenda _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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RockitRon
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Ye gods. Some people take things far too seriously here these days. _________________ Ron |
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Gnasty Gnome
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 313 Location: West Wales
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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RockitRon wrote: | Ye gods. Some people take things far too seriously here these days. |
I've never taken Chris Evans, or anything he does or says, seriously.
What I do take seriously is the wall-to-wall CE-promoting trash that's ruined a perfectly good radio station.
Funny thing; I've started to get so absorbed with R4 that, to my annoyance, I keep missing Ken Bruce's show. |
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Minx
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4088 Location: France/Spain/Peterborough/Tenerife
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Rachel wrote: | Try Radio 4- that should ease you into old age. |
Gnasty Gnome wrote: | Funny thing; I've started to get so absorbed with R4 that, to my annoyance, I keep missing Ken Bruce's show. |
Well, at least our brain cells will remain stimulated and hopefully fully functioning as we glide gently in our old age. _________________ Minx
To err is human, to forgive - canine. |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:13 am Post subject: |
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ruddlescat wrote: | I don't think there are many people who object to the way you feel Helen
It seems to be the usual suspects posting their views who fail to realise that they are in a very tiny minority on this forum
Whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion I get thoroughly fed up of these people trying to make the rest of us feel guilty about what is really no more than them peddling their own minority agenda |
Blimey! How do you walk with such a big chip? Only you can make you feel guilty, sweetheart, and you jolly-well should after your previous post.
Minority on here!? Do me a favour, love, there are only ten of us, and you’ve been here only half a dog-watch (Google it if you don’t know what that is).
You may be a man and as such I’m genetically and evolutionary predisposed to be smaller, weaker and more easily overpowered than you; and as a woman, I’m emotionally programmed to be physically attracted to you in a crisis situation but your words are enough to brush aside all of that, because you sir, have taken the last biscuit, step outside, man or no man, you’re gonna spit teeth. |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Could anyone on here please translate the contents of the last post into English?
As there are actually more than 250 registered members on this forum hopefully someone will have studied Goobldegook as a foreign language and might be able to help
Alternatively I'll have to consult the Plain English Society or failing that Stuart Hall _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:05 am Post subject: |
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ruddlescat wrote: | Could anyone on here please translate the contents of the last post into English?
As there are actually more than 250 registered members on this forum hopefully someone will have studied Goobldegook as a foreign language and might be able to help
Alternatively I'll have to consult the Plain English Society or failing that Stuart Hall |
What a disappointing reply. I’m going shopping... and to think I waited in for that. |
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nod
Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:11 am Post subject: |
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ruddlescat wrote: | ISimon Mayo would have been the obvious choice as he used to do the Radio 1 breakfast show or perhaps Johnnie Walker could have been persuaded to do the show permanently
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Please not Simon Mayo or any other old bland R1 DJs whos target audience was 14 year olds and playing their pop tunes (that doesn't exclude JW), I want a R2 that's NOT just old R1.
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Virtually all presenters on Radio 2 now were formerly on Radio One but just like their audience most of them have moved on and I think if you listen to Simon's Drivetime show that point is fairly evident
The problem with the current breakfast show host is that he is one of the few former Radio One crew who has not moved on which is why I think most people dislike his show
As I said he needs to understand that the audience is 50 years old on average and pitch his presentation and style accordingly which comes back to the point I made earlier
It's not that people necessarily hate him as a person but they hate what he stands for and the devaluation of the quality of the network which goes with it _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:52 am Post subject: |
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ruddlescat wrote: | Virtually all presenters on Radio 2 now were formerly on Radio One but just like their audience most of them have moved on and I think if you listen to Simon's Drivetime show that point is fairly evident
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Confessions? |
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kengeo
Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 278 Location: Gloucestershire
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:55 am Post subject: |
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ruddlescat wrote: | The problem with the current breakfast show host is that he is one of the few former Radio One crew who has not moved on which is why I think most people dislike his show
As I said he needs to understand that the audience is 50 years old on average and pitch his presentation and style accordingly which comes back to the point I made earlier
It's not that people necessarily hate him as a person but they hate what he stands for and the devaluation of the quality of the network which goes with it |
Agree, Evans, along with Zoe Ball do not hark back to the golden days of Radio 1, they are from the turgid post Bannister era, and are not what you would call proper DJ's.
Was never a great fan of Simon Bates, but if you do manage to catch him on the Smooth Breakfast show, that is the sort of thing that R2 should be offering, its great to hear the Golden Hour again.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again (only to be shot down in flames!) a lot of decent presenters were lost to the BBC during the Bannister era. |
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nod
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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ruddlescat wrote: | Virtually all presenters on Radio 2 now were formerly on Radio One but just like their audience most of them have moved on and I think if you listen to Simon's Drivetime show that point is fairly evident
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It sounds just like his R1 show, with the stuff like confessions with bits he's inhereted from CE (they are the better bits).
Most of the ex-R1 haven't moved on eg CE, ZB, SM, SW they are just the same to me. Radcliffe and McConie are good but they have some knowledge of music and are interesting. |
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RockitRon
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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kengeo wrote: | ruddlescat wrote: | The problem with the current breakfast show host is that he is one of the few former Radio One crew who has not moved on which is why I think most people dislike his show
As I said he needs to understand that the audience is 50 years old on average and pitch his presentation and style accordingly which comes back to the point I made earlier
It's not that people necessarily hate him as a person but they hate what he stands for and the devaluation of the quality of the network which goes with it |
...Simon Bates, but if you do manage to catch him on the Smooth Breakfast show, that is the sort of thing that R2 should be offering, its great to hear the Golden Hour again.
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I'm 50, and a bit, but I'm not in my dotage yet.
I want to wake up in the morning, not be put to sleep _________________ Ron |
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ruddlescat
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Ron, I want to be woken up with decent music either lively or otherwise and a presenter who has even some basic knowledge about the stuff he is playing and who does not constantly talk over the music nor someone who includes features in a so called adult show which are more suited to CBBC
Like you I don't want to be put to sleep but I also don't want to begin the day totally stressed out otherwise they won't need to put me to sleep
I'll just end up doing the job for them _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Lord Evan Elpuss
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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kengeo wrote: |
I've said it before, and I'll say it again (only to be shot down in flames!) a lot of decent presenters were lost to the BBC during the Bannister era. |
And in the Douglas / Shennan eras of R2 _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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Angela W
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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ruddlescat wrote: | Ron, I want to be woken up with decent music either lively or otherwise and a presenter who has even some basic knowledge about the stuff he is playing and who does not constantly talk over the music nor someone who includes features in a so called adult show which are more suited to CBBC
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Yes, that is my wish too. _________________ Pirate Johnnie Walker played my request on 11 April 2009 |
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FLYBYNIGHT
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Well, I didn't realise that "hating" somebody meant we wish them harm, or even dead.
I thought "hate" was just the opposite to "love".
I hate snow.....and I certainly don't love Chris Evans. |
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RockitRon
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Angela W wrote: | ruddlescat wrote: | Ron, I want to be woken up with decent music either lively or otherwise and a presenter who has even some basic knowledge about the stuff he is playing and who does not constantly talk over the music nor someone who includes features in a so called adult show which are more suited to CBBC
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Yes, that is my wish too. |
I don't know how people have come to assume that he has no knowledge about the music he plays - listen back to today's show, even the bit without Elton John and the lie to that is proven.
In any case, in the context of a mass-appeal family show at breakfast time I don't think that an encyclopaedic or anal knowledge of the music and artists is essential or even desirable.
They all talk over the music, from Howling Wolf onwards. Alex does it, JW does it, so what. It irritates sometimes, but so long as it doesn't happen on the specialist shows that you want to listen properly to it's no great problem.
One children's feature lasting, what, 90 seconds, does not constitute CBBC.
Although Radio 2's nominal target audience is the over 35s the Breakfast Show is a family one - I'm sure that couples of all ages with school-age children prefer to tune to it rather than the Moyles on Radio 1, so there's nothing wrong in having something to engage the kids. _________________ Ron |
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: |
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All anybody has to do is to listen to the first 2 or 3 minutes of Evans' "shows" to realise what a complete prat the guy is.
Thankfully, there's so much other good stuff out there on the interwebby thing that can be streamed to a variety of devices so he's easily avoided. |
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John W
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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RockitRon wrote: | I don't know how people have come to assume that he has no knowledge about the music he plays - listen back to today's show, even the bit without Elton John and the lie to that is proven. |
I'd like to know about that, without listening to today's show, examples.
RockitRon wrote: | One children's feature lasting, what, 90 seconds, does not constitute CBBC. |
A children's feature if fine, but the rest of the programme has too much childish foolishness. _________________ -
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Sadie Su
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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I have back problems at the moment, and as a consequence am sleeping badly, and waking early.
The good news is that I have been listening to Vanessa Feltz this week.
What a joy, nicely spoken, no shouting, no laughing at nothing, just have to remember to get to the off switch by six twenty eight. |
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Gnasty Gnome
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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John W wrote: |
A children's feature if fine, but the rest of the programme has too much childish foolishness. |
Precisely the reason why I've given up on R2 at breakfast. |
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