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Clive55
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: Radcliffe & Maconie |
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Anyone else enjoy their mid evening shows?
Interestiung mix of music, & amiable northern mutterings in between |
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Lord Evan Elpuss
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I do enjoy their show, but my only regret was that it meant the death knell of some of the specialist music shows. I'm sure there could have been a way to avoid losing Nick Barraclough & Sounds Of The 70s, to name two. _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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essexlady
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 348 Location: Essex
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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I always enjoy their show, both for the music and their personalities .My only problem with it, is that it seems a waste to use two very good broadcasters in one show when there are so many other shows that could benefit from their talent e.g. Drivetime on which I thought Stuart did an excellent job and The Big Show which I always enjoy when Mark presents it. |
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SantaFefan
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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I listened for about 3/4 of an hour this evening whilst I undercoated a door... yes, I think they're great together, they play an interesting mix of music and it's all very amusing too.
I like the music related headline stories such as Guns & Roses and The Specials tonight.. very funny!
It's just on a little late for me.. wish they could take over Drivetime. _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be. |
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MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3130 Location: The Beautiful South
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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SantaFefan wrote: | IIt's just on a little late for me.. wish they could take over Drivetime. |
Oh hear hear!! If only they would... _________________ MiS |
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Lord Evan Elpuss
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Both are accomplished solo presenters. Why not have one on between 2:00-5:00pm & the other between 5:00-7:00pm? _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3130 Location: The Beautiful South
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Lord Evan Elpuss wrote: | Both are accomplished solo presenters. Why not have one on between 2:00-5:00pm & the other between 5:00-7:00pm? |
oh bliss!! If only we could see the back of "Love the show" and the shoutfest that follows it _________________ MiS |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:12 am Post subject: |
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They're both decent enough presenters but not good enough for mainstream daytime shows - maybe as stand-ins now and again if RA wasn't available. |
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NickSheffield
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 508
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Rachel wrote: | They're both decent enough presenters but not good enough for mainstream daytime shows - maybe as stand-ins now and again if RA wasn't available. |
I've commented before about this but:
I think they produce brilliant radio together and are better in unison than when apart. However, I don't see mainstream shows as being the best way of showing off their talents. They simply wouldn't be able to put on their style of show in the daytime with the overhanging cloud of playlists and demographics spoiling their fun. I hope they keep the evening slot for many years to come. |
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Angus McCoatup
Joined: 22 Nov 2007 Posts: 221 Location: , Location, Location
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Very true.
I remember MR on Radio 1 when his biggest beef was with the restrictive playlist, and let's face it, the R1 playlist is worse than R2's at any given time.
I'll never forget him cutting off Eminem's "Stan" about a minute into it with the words "Well if you haven't heard that by now you're never going to".
Priceless |
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RockitRon
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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I don't get to listen very often - the music is OK but I can't stand all the blethering in between, from either of them really, and The Chain is so 60s/70s BBC Local Radio. _________________ Ron |
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MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3130 Location: The Beautiful South
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Give me MR & SM "blathering" any day compared to Steve Wrong! He just loves the sound of his own voice. _________________ MiS |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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They're a bit too "hard" for me. You know when guys have a couple of pints - they start talking louder and become less inhibited with their certainty of facts. Well, those two are like that- they're a wee bit like two blokes in a pub trying to impress the two women over there, but they come over as a tad anoraky music-wise, and mildy agressive in a blokey "macho-lite" kind of way. They're just too "backstreet pub" for me. Best to leave em where they are - I'm sure some women do like them but for me they're just not "women-friendly" enough for a day-time show.
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Clive55
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1336
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Lord Evan Elpuss wrote: | Yes I do enjoy their show, but my only regret was that it meant the death knell of some of the specialist music shows. I'm sure there could have been a way to avoid losing Nick Barraclough & Sounds Of The 70s, to name two. |
I agree. I miss the specialist music shows |
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RockitRon
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Rachel wrote: | They're a bit too "hard" for me. You know when guys have a couple of pints - they start talking louder and become less inhibited with their certainty of facts. Well, those two are like that- they're a wee bit like two blokes in a pub trying to impress the two women over there, but they come over as a tad anoraky music-wise, and mildy agressive in a blokey "macho-lite" kind of way. They're just too "backstreet pub" for me. Best to leave em where they are - I'm sure some women do like them but for me they're just not "women-friendly" enough for a day-time show. |
Now you come to mention that, it's not so much 60s local radio that it puts me in mind of, but this...
We used to stay with my dad's brother for a few Christmases in the 60s. His son, my cousin, was a few years older than I, and the owner of a Philips tape recorder and an enviable collection of records, including all of the Beatles. He and his best mate would spend most of the time up in his room recording tracks and, between them, on mic, making up ridiculous stories and facts, each trying to outdo the other. They allowed me to hear the playback, but never to join in.
So, yes, it's a boy thing. _________________ Ron |
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Minx
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4088 Location: France/Spain/Peterborough/Tenerife
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Rachel wrote: | They're a bit too "hard" for me. You know when guys have a couple of pints - they start talking louder and become less inhibited with their certainty of facts. . |
I can't imagine what you mean Rachel. |
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igs007
Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 190
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Minx wrote: | Rachel wrote: | They're a bit too "hard" for me. You know when guys have a couple of pints - they start talking louder and become less inhibited with their certainty of facts. . |
I can't imagine what you mean Rachel. |
Shouting and dithering over facts?
Step forward one Chris Evans... |
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igs007
Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 190
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Rachel wrote: | They're both decent enough presenters but not good enough for mainstream daytime shows - maybe as stand-ins now and again if RA wasn't available. |
Wow, bit harsh! While I can see where you're coming from in your second post (in terms of pub blokes - which, unsurprisingly, is where they came up with the idea for this show, and our dearly departed controller, in one of her stronger moments, gave them the ok) but how do you define 'not good enough'?
The two presenters are great together and great apart. Remember - both have done their share of stand ins, particularly Stuart who stood in on Drivetime for months when Johnnie was undergoing treatment - that was hardly 'now and then' standing in. The ratings showed that he kept people listening and he certainly proved himself in that situation. Mark's done his bit too, and I know there are other threads dealing with the whole issue of duos presenting (eg Radcliffe and Tarbuck, Forbes etc).
I don't think they come across as anoraks; they're both knowledgable broadcasters. Has it come to the point where any sort of show like this with musical knowledge is deemed 'anoraky'? Mind you, after Lesley Douglas' unfortunate comments about 6 music and women listeners, I don't know what to make of it all! |
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Minx
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4088 Location: France/Spain/Peterborough/Tenerife
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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For me, Radcliffe is enhanced by his partnership with Maconie - who lends a certain balance to Radcliffe's sometimes dogmatic persona.
Maconie, on the other hand, sometimes seems to come across as a an over exuberant puppy, trying to get his oar in before being drowned out by Radcliffe. I much preferred the calm, controlled, quirky Maconie that we used to hear on Drivetime and on Saturday afternoons. Maconie's credentials as a music journalist are sound, but, if the first time you ever listened to him was on this show, you would think he was just one step up from the stooge that Jonathon Ross has on his Saturday morning show. |
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RockitRon
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't go so far as to compare him with Ross's stooge but, as far as Drivetime relief is concerned, things have moved on a bound or two since the days of Johnnie Walker. He may not be universally loved, but Chris Evans has increased listener figures, so his leap-up-and-down-wave-your-knickers-in-the-air-and-shout-a-lot style must appeal. The contrast when Maconie stands in is just too, too... and I can imagine people falling asleep at the wheel while he's on.
I agree he does always sound as if he's busting a gut to get a word in around Radcliffe, and he doesn't really sound right there either. On his own, at a time when his knowledge, taste and style would be best appreciated. Presenters are rarely offered their old time-slots back, so Saturday afternoons are probably out; I don't suppose he would be interested in Janice Long's should it become available? _________________ Ron |
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gfloyd
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 4861 Location: Here, There, Everywhere.
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Which ones Ant & which ones Dec? _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: |
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igs007 wrote: | Rachel wrote: | They're both decent enough presenters but not good enough for mainstream daytime shows - maybe as stand-ins now and again if RA wasn't available. |
Wow, bit harsh! While I can see where you're coming from in your second post (in terms of pub blokes - which, unsurprisingly, is where they came up with the idea for this show, and our dearly departed controller, in one of her stronger moments, gave them the ok) but how do you define 'not good enough'?
The two presenters are great together and great apart. Remember - both have done their share of stand ins, particularly Stuart who stood in on Drivetime for months when Johnnie was undergoing treatment - that was hardly 'now and then' standing in. The ratings showed that he kept people listening and he certainly proved himself in that situation. Mark's done his bit too, and I know there are other threads dealing with the whole issue of duos presenting (eg Radcliffe and Tarbuck, Forbes etc).
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No no! Not harsh at all- just the way it is from where I sit; they really aren’t good enough for a daytime show on their own, or together. I don’t dislike them; now and again they display a smidgen of boyish charm but just not enough. My hubby on the other hand thinks they’re fab- so he listens to them quite a lot but when I listen to them it feels like I’m being “told off” all the time – their presentation style is age and gender limited, which is why they don’t and wouldn’t work during the day.
I can remember the Drivetime stand-in period all too well. |
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igs007
Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 190
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="RockitRon"]I wouldn't go so far as to compare him with Ross's stooge but, as far as Drivetime relief is concerned, things have moved on a bound or two since the days of Johnnie Walker. He may not be universally loved, but Chris Evans has increased listener figures, so his leap-up-and-down-wave-your-knickers-in-the-air-and-shout-a-lot style must appeal. The contrast when Maconie stands in is just too, too... and I can imagine people falling asleep at the wheel while he's on.quote]
Nonsense. Just because Stuart has a different presenting personality to Chris, it doesn't necessarily mean that people will switch off when Chris takes one of his regular breaks (or with Allinson standing in). I don't believe that someone of Chris' personality should necessarily stand in while he's away - R2 obviously don't believe that either, and so they shouldn't. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see Danny Baker stand in one week and leave his mark - but can you see that happening? That's two big ego clashes!
You're implying that Maconie is boring when he stands in for Drivetime, in contrast to Chris. That's unfair. I certainly don't think Stuart has to up his game any more now that Chris is presenting and not Johnnie Walker - if anything, the gig's easier! Stuart is still a stand in for that show, so he must be doing something right. And I think that not copying Chris' act is certainly something right. |
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MadeinSurrey
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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R & M would be a godsend at 5.00 - I've just had to turn Evans off after 7 minutes - I just cannot stand his "style" . Why does he have to shout all the time, and the "background" music is so loud it's absurd.
R & M are real broadcasters. Evans ain't _________________ MiS |
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Clive55
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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I do usually enjoy Drietime with chris. But this evening he was yelling & nattering more than usual
I had to switch it over |
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