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Dean Robertson Guest
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: Alan Carr for Radio 2! |
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I think it's about time Lesley Douglas offered Alan Carr a permanent slot on Radio 2!
How about Friday nights, 10.00pm - midnight in place of The Wight Stuff? |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3611 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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No chance. She can't afford him and he ain't got the time. |
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Dean Robertson Guest
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Surely if Lesley Douglas can afford Chris Evans, Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand, then she can afford Alan Carr?!
I agree that Alan is a busy guy - but so are the other three above! |
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tarahrah bomdiay
Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 260
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Crikey he's awful, how about a proper presenter? |
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Dean Robertson Guest
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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tarahrah bomdiay wrote: | Crikey he's awful, how about a proper presenter? |
If you think Alan is awful, check out a few others on Radio 2!
(I had better not name names in case John Wright kicks off at me.) |
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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: |
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He's not right for Radio 2!! Especially 10pm Friday night. |
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Dean Robertson Guest
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Like some people argue that Russell Brand isn't right for 9pm Saturdays? |
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Behind Geddon's Wall
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1553 Location: Kingston Upon Hull/ The Cloud Factory
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Dame Lesley should employ people who know a bit about music. _________________ Geddon
You simply mustn't blame yourself -- the days were perfect
And so were exactly what I was born to spoil
For I am the Rider to the World's End
Bound across the cinder causeway
From the furnace to the quarry
Through the fields of oil |
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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Behind Geddon's Wall wrote: | Dame Lesley should employ people who know a bit about music. |
Alan Carr knows nothing about music. |
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Arcader
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Behind Geddon's Wall wrote: | Dame Lesley should employ people who know a bit about music. |
Couldn't agree more - less of these lousy celeb and/or comedy presenters and more the likes of Bob Harris, Stuart Maconie, Mark Radcliffe and the like please. |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3611 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Dean Robertson wrote: | Like some people argue that Russell Brand isn't right for 9pm Saturdays? |
Well... he isn't! |
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Dean Robertson Guest
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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Behind Geddon's Wall wrote: | Dame Lesley should employ people who know a bit about music. |
She won't do that. Unfortunately, music enthusiasts like Bob Harris have been shunted to graveyard slots. Instead, we have to endure morons like Sarah Kennedy, Steve Wright, Chris Evans and Dermot O'Leary who show utter contempt to the music they play. Instead, the prefer the sound of their own voice. |
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RobbieM
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 233 Location: Buckinghamshire, UK
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Dean Robertson wrote: | Instead, we have to endure morons like Sarah Kennedy, Steve Wright, Chris Evans and Dermot O'Leary who show utter contempt to the music they play. Instead, the prefer the sound of their own voice. |
Do they get ratings, though? If so, they must be satisfying a certain "demand" whether or not we like one or more of the individuals concerned. Why does a radio presenter necessarily have to know about music? Radio has the potential for much more than just music - I have loads of that on my computer via iTunes. I want more than just music most of the time, as do an increasing number of listeners. _________________ ONline, ONdigital and ONtherocks: BBC Radio 2. Eleanor Rigby, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door. |
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Dean Robertson Guest
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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What is it with the BBC's obsession with ratings? Sarah Kennedy probably pulls in so many listeners because the vast majority of them are retired folk tuning in for their pensioner's breakfast, people from Middle England, or those of whom live in areas with lack of radio alternatives or simply cannot be arsed to retune their radios. Of course, some of these listeners might be alarm clocks...Sarah Kennedy's dulcet tones are enough to make anyone want to jump out of bed.
One of Radio 2's biggest downfalls under Lesley Douglas' controllership is the amount of celebrities, singers and TV presenters who have been introduced. Many of them know nothing about music whereas others self-promote themselves, massage their over-inflated egos, or cannot present a radio show if they tried. Gone have the days when we had professional radio presenters with impeccable musical knowledge.
The likes of Bob Harris and Johnnie Walker are renowned for their eclectic tastes in music. They have gradually been marginalised for the likes of Chris Evans, Dermot O'Leary and Russell Brand - just three of Lesley Douglas' "pals".
Isn't it funny how most of her chums have ended up with slots on Radio 2... |
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RobbieM
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 233 Location: Buckinghamshire, UK
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Dean Robertson wrote: | What is it with the BBC's obsession with ratings? |
The whole of broadcasting is obsessed with ratings, simply because each station calibrates its own success (or otherwise) by commonly-agreed and proven audience measurement systems in the same way that websites count the page-view and unique stats as a measure of how popular it is.
And, of course, the alternative is.... what? It might not be perfect, but market research statistics of the listener base over a given period of time is a pretty reliable measure. So, if the stats confirm that SK is listened to by a lot of people then it must surely justify the continued existence of the show.
Dean Robertson wrote: | Isn't it funny how most of her chums have ended up with slots on Radio 2... |
Maybe they're good for ratings, too. _________________ ONline, ONdigital and ONtherocks: BBC Radio 2. Eleanor Rigby, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door. |
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Dean Robertson Guest
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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The BBC should not base its radio programming on large numbers. What about minorities who are no longer catered for? Jazz, for example, is virtually non-existent on Radio 2 since Humphrey Lyttleton called it a day.
Ed Stewart was axed in April 2006 - his listeners have not had a replacement. |
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RobbieM
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 233 Location: Buckinghamshire, UK
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Dean Robertson wrote: | The BBC should not base its radio programming on large numbers. |
The BBC has a remit - as laid down in its original charter and now upheld by the Trust members - to cater for a diverse audience consisting of, where appropriate, minorities. If that means appealing to very small minorities, such as Danny Baker or Pete Mitchell listeners, then so be it. _________________ ONline, ONdigital and ONtherocks: BBC Radio 2. Eleanor Rigby, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door. |
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SantaFefan
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Dean Robertson wrote: | One of Radio 2's biggest downfalls under Lesley Douglas' controllership is the amount of celebrities, singers and TV presenters who have been introduced. Many of them know nothing about music ..... |
So why are you asking for Alan Carr to be engaged?? _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be. |
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Dean Robertson Guest
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Because Alan Carr is a unique talent, that's why. I much prefer him than loudmouth Russell Brand. Oh, and don't forget that Carr is gay - something for the minority audience. After all, the BBC should cater for everyone... |
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RobbieM
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Dean Robertson wrote: | Because Alan Carr is a unique talent, that's why. |
But does he know anything about music?
Dean Robertson wrote: | Oh, and don't forget that Carr is gay - something for the minority audience. After all, the BBC should cater for everyone... |
If he's gay (allegedly) then it's very likely that the Beeb will consider it compulsory to hire his services. _________________ ONline, ONdigital and ONtherocks: BBC Radio 2. Eleanor Rigby, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door. |
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SantaFefan
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Dean Robertson wrote: | I much prefer him than loudmouth Russell Brand. |
I like Alan Carr too as it happens but I also like Russell Brand. If anybody is a unique talent I'd say Russell is!
Dean Robertson wrote: | ............. the BBC should cater for everyone. |
Then you won't be objecting to Brian Matthew with SOTS on a Saturday then? _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Dean Robertson wrote: |
Ed Stewart was axed in April 2006 - his listeners have not had a replacement. |
Yes they have, Johnnie Walker does a good job? |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Dean Robertson wrote: |
One of Radio 2's biggest downfalls under Lesley Douglas' controllership is the amount of celebrities, singers and TV presenters who have been introduced. Many of them know nothing about music whereas others self-promote themselves, massage their over-inflated egos, or cannot present a radio show if they tried. Gone have the days when we had professional radio presenters with impeccable musical knowledge.
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Why are you opening threads about Celebrities then if it's Radio 2 downfall? We need people like Bob Harris, Johnnie Walker, Pete Mitchell, Ken Bruce, Alex Lester and Richard Allinson and maybe a few more who know about music. |
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Dean Robertson Guest
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Mark, I have not said that Johnnie Walker is a bad presenter; on the contrary I like him. However, he does host an entirely different programme to what Ed Stewart did. |
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RobbieM
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Dean Robertson wrote: | Mark, I have not said that Johnnie Walker is a bad presenter; on the contrary I like him. However, he does host an entirely different programme to what Ed Stewart did. |
That's very true. Johnnie's show doesn't have the words "The Ed Stewart Show" in the title, for a start. That's a bit of a giveaway, I'd say! _________________ ONline, ONdigital and ONtherocks: BBC Radio 2. Eleanor Rigby, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door. |
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Dean Robertson Guest
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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And Johnnie Walker doesn't play The Laughing Policeman like Ed Stewart did virtually every week...
In a way I can understand why Lesley Douglas axed him. |
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SantaFefan
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:34 am Post subject: |
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I like to hear the Laughing Policeman....
Everytime that fence spraying advert comes on, I can't help laughing too. _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be. |
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