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SantaFefan
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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sheltster wrote: | Yes, only the likes of Johnny Walker and Jimmy Young belong on Radio 2, guys you really do have to move with the times |
No no no... that's rubbish. I love to hear Steve Wright, Radcliffe, Maconie and Lamarr too. _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be. |
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John W
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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sheltster wrote: | Yes, only the likes of Johnny Walker and Jimmy Young belong on Radio 2, guys you really do have to move with the times |
I like Russell Davies, Desmond Carrington, Malcolm Laycock - clearly they have a place in the 'times' we live in. |
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sheltster
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 61
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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There is room to for the likes of Jonathan Ross, Chris Evans and Russell Brand.
Radio Two is a broad church and long may it stay that way _________________ Chris Evans' Breakfast - doesn't sound quite as good as Chris Evans' Drivetime but good nonetheless! |
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John W
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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sheltster wrote: | There is room to for the likes of Jonathan Ross, Chris Evans and Russell Brand.
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No, Ross and Brand have shown themselves to be too yobbish, so no place for them at Radio 2 now. I don't like yobs on the bus, and I don't like yobs on the radio.
sheltster, the BBC management have accepted that yobbish behaviour is not appropriate on the BBC, just accept it.
It's only Ross's contract that's keeping his job. 12 weeks hopefully is long enough for him to eventually do the honourable thing and slink away into the hovel that is his mind.
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essexlady
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 348 Location: Essex
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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I have been surprised by the level of support that Lesley Douglas has received from the presenters on Radio 2 e.g. STW, Jeremy Vine and Stuart Maconie. She is obviously a good boss even if she made some dreadful decisions by employing the likes of Russell Brand, Jonathan Ross and Chris Evans. |
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Number Six
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 439 Location: In the village
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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And perhaps they don't want the new controller to think that they are being disloyal.
Cynical, ain't I? _________________ I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. |
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igs007
Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 190
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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sheltster wrote: | Yes, only the likes of Johnny Walker and Jimmy Young belong on Radio 2, guys you really do have to move with the times |
Really, do you think that comments on here not in support of Brand and Ross necessarily mean that we all want to go back in time somehow? Besides, I find it offensive that you think the two fine broadcasters mentioned are not in keeping with the times. Walker's still on this station and regularly presents the nation's most popular breakfast show. Before he left/was removed from Drivetime, he had healthy ratings around 5 million. That was only just over 2 years ago.
As others have mentioned, there are plenty of other fine, younger broadcasters who - if you bother to check on this message board - are very popular with listeners, such as Stuart Maconie.
So do you really think Ross and Brand are in keeping with the times? What a sorry state things are indeed, if that is what you see. |
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Lord Evan Elpuss
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Just one point to correct here. It was Jim Moir who signed up Jonathan Ross. I too can't forgive Lesley for what she did to my radio station of choice and 6 music which was her other charge. Maybe it's time these two stations each had their own controllers, rather than one person in charge of both stations. I also wonder about so many presenters on both Radio 2 & 6 music being sourced from one agency - John Noel Management. _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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Angus McCoatup
Joined: 22 Nov 2007 Posts: 221 Location: , Location, Location
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think they would dare admit anything else live on air essexlady!!
I have managed to reserve my opinions on this whole farce until the final decision was made.
As will have been pointed out elsewhere the original broadcast raised two complaints which, due to the intervention initially of the Daily Mail and consequently of the rest of the media rose to over 30,000. This has been a witch hunt from the start by the Daily Mail who are envious of the salaries these guys earn and the popularity they receive
I don't think Jonathan Ross could have dreamt up a stunt like this own, but unfortunately he seems to be easily led by people such as Russell.
I think the prank was stupid and malicious and Russell did the right thing in resigning as well as apologising. We will have to wait and see if Ross is as well received by the public after his suspension is served.
As for Lesley? Well as much as I dislike her for what she has done to Radio 2 I don't think she should have resigned but she has paid the ultimate price for hiring Brand and all the other celebrity clowns in the first place.
And she has finally got what has been coming to her ever since she hired Chris Evans, so for that reason I'm not sorry to see her go.
I hope that LD's successor realises that the core demographic of Radio 2 are people in their late 30's and beyond. We absolutely do not want "Yoof" on our station. We want a wide and varied range of music and shows hosted by "safe" presenters who we feel comfortable with and know exactly where to draw the line.
I feel very sure that LD was popular amongst her staff, unfortunately she was not popular with the listeners who, like me, feel that our beloved Radio 2 has all but been destroyed since she came along. I can only hope that Chris Evans decides to follow her seeing as he was so upset about her leaving. |
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BDG
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 202
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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I think Gambo's comments about "Personalities" are very valid here he made the point very clearly that neither Brand or Ross were able to work the controls hence the reason they were standing up.
We need good quality Radio Broadcasters and agree with the comment that there are plenty of good young presenters around.
Ross's TV show is a different matter and I have to say I think he is pretty good at that. But endorse Briant's point what people want on a Sat morning is totally different to what they might watch late on TV on a Sat night. Interesting also that Gambo made the point that Brian Matthew had the biggest listening figures on R2 8-10am on a Saturday morning and after that 1/3 million listeners stopped listening. |
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Clive55
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1336
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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I agree. I found Ross' saturday R2 show indigestible, but i did evening his TV show on the ocasions I saw it
But I don't think i could stomach watching him after this |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3611 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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BDG wrote: | I think Gambo's comments about "Personalities" are very valid here he made the point very clearly that neither Brand or Ross were able to work the controls hence the reason they were standing up. |
er... Gambo's wrong on that one. Brand stands up because he's a stand-up comedian and that's how he works. The fact he couldn't control the desk was incidental to that. |
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