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gfloyd
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 4861 Location: Here, There, Everywhere.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: Concert for Diana |
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Does this justify a full evening on BBC1 and Radio 2?
I have listened to a bit of Radio 2's coverage in the car and Chris & Lauren conversations are milding interesting/ amusing if only because Chris Evans seems to be turning into a pipe and slippers old fart while Lauren still seems to be with it.
However 7 hours of it is stretching things. The bands & performers are the usual suspects that get rounded up for these events. I'm sure we will see the same lot again next Saturday to save the world yet again. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Red Baron
Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 120
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Well, even if the line up isn't totally to your taste, it's better than the normal Sunday night schedule - come to that, it's better than any night of the week
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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Is Richard Allinson the new Richard Skinner who I heard on the TV. Skinner announced the Live Aid concert in 1985? |
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Cherskiy
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 3701 Location: near Amble, Northumberland
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, I thought I heard him doing an announcement before Duran Duran came on.... _________________ Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
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mark occomore
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Cherskiy wrote: | Yep, I thought I heard him doing an announcement before Duran Duran came on.... |
Just before Will Young and after. I bet that put Evans nose out. |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19391 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Agree with you Ernie! Am not really in the mood to watch, it's on but I'm in and out of the room.
I've been catching up on the listen again but would have much preferred the normal radio schedule.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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gfloyd
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 4861 Location: Here, There, Everywhere.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | Is Richard Allinson the new Richard Skinner? |
What's wrong with the current Richard Skinner? He hasnt lost it yet you know & would be much better on Radio 2 than Pete Mitchell nor a few other cover DJ's who will remain nameless! _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Red Baron
Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 120
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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I must say I was talking about the TV schedule - I have missed Johnnie tonight!
RB
Helen May wrote: | Agree with you Ernie! Am not really in the mood to watch, it's on but I'm in and out of the room.
I've been catching up on the listen again but would have much preferred the normal radio schedule.
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Mark Mayhew
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent work Richard Allinson.
Think the concert is briliant. |
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SantaFefan
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Watching on TV, I can't say I'm completely bowled over by it so far.
The sound isn't great either. I enjoyed Rod and his sax player but hopefully I'll get to the off button before Elton John wobbles on again. |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Gave up when Lily Allen came on but managed to catch the Lloyd Webber bit later, liked that bit but then turned over and watched coast. |
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SCOTS-IAIN
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 16 Location: Hull
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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It's amazing that some poeple can't do without their Sunday night "fix" of the usual schedules. Don't worry, they'll all come back!
This is a "one-off" event! Plus it was for charity.
It's been great; I'm listening to Elton John closing the show, and he's been on top form, both at the start and towards the end!
Iain. |
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John W
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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I just couldn't be bothered with the concert, thankfully I still have my Malcolm Laycock show tonight |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19391 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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SCOTS-IAIN wrote: | It's amazing that some poeple can't do without their Sunday night "fix" of the usual schedules. Don't worry, they'll all come back!
This is a "one-off" event! Plus it was for charity.
It's been great; I'm listening to Elton John closing the show, and he's been on top form, both at the start and towards the end!
Iain. |
So put in on Radio or TV but not on both. The viewers aren't giving to charity though.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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Mark Mayhew
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Scots-Iain-Totally agree.
Makes you think- there's a right bunch of misery guts on this thread. |
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Behind Geddon's Wall
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: |
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OK, call me an old misery-guts if you wish, but the terms hasbeens and wannabees spring readily to mind. _________________ Geddon
You simply mustn't blame yourself -- the days were perfect
And so were exactly what I was born to spoil
For I am the Rider to the World's End
Bound across the cinder causeway
From the furnace to the quarry
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Helen May wrote: |
So put in on Radio or TV but not on both.
H |
I agree with that, why the wall to wall coverage? |
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firewirefred Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:30 am Post subject: |
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I was on a long drive home on Sunday afternoon and was looking forward to listening to Johnnie Walker when Evans pops up waffling on about not much at all. It was after his appalling so-called "interview" with the two princes that I gave up - what a complete joke. This guy is paid a fortune and all he can do is ask the most stupid, inane questions on the assumption that all the listeners have only the intelligence of a Smash Hits reader. What a prat!
Watching later on TV (without Evans thank god) I thought that some of the acts were OK but the whole thing was rushed. I thought the sound balance was pretty awful in many parts, too. I heard that all the little "info breaks" were increased to allow for NBC in the states to insert more commercials than originally planned, too, and this may partly account for the fact that lots of acts had their slots reduced (eg: Elton John was supposed to end on Crocodile Rock but didn't; Rod Stewart was supposed to do "Handbags & Gladrags"; Take That were supposed to have done another number, etc etc).
Bit of a mish-mash? |
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Behind Geddon's Wall
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:49 am Post subject: |
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...and it overrun by 20+minutes _________________ Geddon
You simply mustn't blame yourself -- the days were perfect
And so were exactly what I was born to spoil
For I am the Rider to the World's End
Bound across the cinder causeway
From the furnace to the quarry
Through the fields of oil |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3611 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: |
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I was at the cinema most of yesterday, so only saw a little bit but it didn't look so good. The audience looked quite sparse.
On radio, the sound wasn't great - but with Lily Allen and Fergie, perhaps that's a blessing?
I enjoyed Chris Evans interviewing Tom Jones, and Chris's complete failure to spot the connection between the Wales rugby team and the Princess of Wales! |
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gfloyd
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 4861 Location: Here, There, Everywhere.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Ian Robinson wrote: | Chris's complete failure to spot the connection between the Wales rugby team and the Princess of Wales! |
Will Carling? But he played for England. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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SCOTS-IAIN
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Mark Mayhew"]Scots-Iain-Totally agree.
Makes you think- there's a right bunch of misery guts on this thread.
Mark,
You said what I really should have said. I do agree in part with the complainants that possibly there wasn't any need to have it on both R2 and BBC1. I chose to watch it on BBC1, instead of having to suffer that utter "buffoon" Chris Evans on Radio 2.
As for hasbeens and wannabees as described by others, was it just me who reckoned that it was the older, and far more experienced artistes such as Elton John, Tom Jones and so on, plus the professionals in the "Lloyd Webber" section, who were easily able to sing in tune, and in style, as opposed to the younger acts who obviously cannot hack it singing in a "live" environment.
Obviously, they generally need to rely on loads of techology to assist them, just like The Spice Girls!
As for those who have wittered on about the wall to wall programming, this was a one-off event, so treat it as such, and get on with life. There are other radio and TV channels , both on and off the BBC to turn to. |
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Number Six
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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I never quite got the hang of this. Last year was the tenth anniversary of my own mother's death and I most certainly didn't feel like celebrating, and the idea that if you didn't like it you are a "miseryguts" is a very unique use of logic. I taped it and I'll just watch bits of it when there's bugger all else on.
I reckon Scots Iain is right about the older and newer artists. I went to the last Royal concert, Party at the Palace in 2002 and the difference between people like Shirley Bassey and Atomic Kitten, Tom Jones and Will Young was very noticable. I reckon they tweaked it for the TV broadcast. I was eleven rows from the stage and when Dame Shirl sang Goldfinger I actually physically felt it. I could barely hear Will Young at all. _________________ I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Mayhew wrote: | Scots-Iain-Totally agree.
Makes you think- there's a right bunch of misery guts on this thread. |
At least you had your daily dose of Richard Allinson I heard him on Smooth Radio today advertising an album. |
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Cherskiy
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not entirely sure I could be classified as a 'misery guts' because I chose not to listen to most of it. Do you have to drop everything and sit glued to the telly or the radio because a 'tribute' concert to someone who died ten years ago is on? I'll admit the lead-up and pre-event publicity passed me by (partly because I've never bought into the whole 'Saint Diana' thing), so when I switched the radio on whilst running the bath, I expected to hear Pick of the Pops. Clearly I wasn't expecting what came next....
Chris Evans? On a Sunday? What's going on? Couldn't even work out straight away what he was wittering on about, especially as he was talking to someone called 'Harry'. It eventually dawned on me what was going on when CE gave the first of many timechecks, saying it was so-and-so minutes and seconds to go....
I've got nothing against a tribute concert per se, if it makes money for charity, fine, but don't expect me to have to drop everything to listen/watch, even if it was a 'one-off' event. So add me to the list of people who wonder why it had to monopolise both R2 and BBC1's Sunday schedules - one or the other (or alternating every so often) would have been overkill enough. _________________ Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
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SantaFefan
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with both Iain and No.6. the older singers are generally more able to achieve and hold the notes despite their age, although Roger Hodgson of Supertramp made me cringe a bit! he should have had some backing.
I didn't see all of it but I did think Ms. Beddingfield was good.
Overall, I wouldn't knock the lineup because it was the Princes' choice but I did think the atmosphere wasn't quite right somehow for such a concert. The venue was just too big! The sound/mix was poor and, I don't understand why the Beeb can't seem to get the handovers / mike activation right!
I also think the atmosphere would have improved ( for me ) if the concert went on into darkness so the stadium lighting effects could be more appreciated.
But, still enjoyable and I hope they'll show it again! |
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seymourwhitebits
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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in the days of Live Aid a simultaneous broadcast was welcome as it gave us the chance to hear the concert in stereo ( sound of everyone under 20 gasping at the thought that tv used to be in mono! )
these days i suppose you could argue the case for the blind amongst us as tv commentary tends to assume you can see all thats going on whereas radio knows you cant see it so describes all the background goings on. ( a bit like eurovision??- no moaning about simul-cast then was there?)
i didn't watch but i caught the end of duran duran and lily allen listening in the car and to be honest i thought the sound mix was appalling. if that was the kind of mix that was presented to the crowd at wembley i think i would have walked out in disgust.
i'm not anti/pro-diana, just didn't fancy the line up so didnt watch. _________________ "Timpani!, Timpani!, They've all got it Timpani!"- All drummers know the pain of skin trouble. |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: |
At least you had your daily dose of Richard Allinson I heard him on Smooth Radio today advertising an album. |
Allinson was on Capital, Diana's favourite station. She used to listen to it exclusively in the 80's/ early 90's which probably tells you enough about the music on the concert last night. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Mark Mayhew
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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So admit it Mark O you are not listening to Radio 2 24 7.
You say you heard an advert by Richard Allinson on Smooth Radio earlier today .That means you were not listening to Ken Bruce-I think you are a big fan of Mark Goodier but don't like to shout about it.
Don't worry I won't tell anybody-your secret is safe with me. |
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Mark Mayhew
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hi SantaFefan-Don't want to be picky but just thought I would clarify the position of Roger Hodgson and Supertramp.
Roger was a co-founder of Supertramp alongside Rick Davies.
Roger left Supertramp years ago to go solo-around 1982-he is still plying his trade living off the back of some of the songs he co-wrote with Rick Davies.
Supertramp are led now by Rick Davies and although are quiet at present Roger Hodgson is no longer anything to do with Supertramp.
Personally I think Roger should rejoin Supertramp and that they should make a come back album.
If you are interested their best album Crime of The Century is the featured album on Richard Allinson's daily show on BFBS Radio 2 on Tuesday 3rd July. Richard will play 3 of the best tracks from this album-well worth tuning into. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Mayhew wrote: | So admit it Mark O you are not listening to Radio 2 24 7.
You say you heard an advert by Richard Allinson on Smooth Radio earlier today .That means you were not listening to Ken Bruce-I think you are a big fan of Mark Goodier but don't like to shout about it.
Don't worry I won't tell anybody-your secret is safe with me. |
Please don't |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Mayhew wrote: | So admit it Mark O you are not listening to Radio 2 24 7.
You say you heard an advert by Richard Allinson on Smooth Radio earlier today .That means you were not listening to Ken Bruce-I think you are a big fan of Mark Goodier but don't like to shout about it.
Don't worry I won't tell anybody-your secret is safe with me. |
It's hardly a secret that a) Mark O doesn't listen to much (if any) Radio 2, and b) he's a big fan of Mark Goodier - he does on about him all the time. He's also started several threads about Smooth Radio (none of which actually mention the music). |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Ian Robinson wrote: | Mark Mayhew wrote: | So admit it Mark O you are not listening to Radio 2 24 7.
You say you heard an advert by Richard Allinson on Smooth Radio earlier today .That means you were not listening to Ken Bruce-I think you are a big fan of Mark Goodier but don't like to shout about it.
Don't worry I won't tell anybody-your secret is safe with me. |
It's hardly a secret that a) Mark O doesn't listen to much (if any) Radio 2, and b) he's a big fan of Mark Goodier - he does on about him all the time. He's also started several threads about Smooth Radio (none of which actually mention the music). |
Actually the network does play a bigger variety of music than what Radio 2 plays and not all the new stuff and its not a national station. It plays a lot of different music from the 60's and 70's which radio 2 dont' play all the time. You can check out what they played through the day as well. |
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Barkingbiker
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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There was too much hype, not enough music and with Evans presenting it too much inane prattle with interview questions just flying off at a tangent which certainly left me wondering what was the point. I soon switched off, well listened to what I had missed of Bob Harris's Saturday show, oh and I missed JW; all in all a total let down for me.
BB _________________ Old Bikers Never Die, our leathers just get tighter! |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | Actually the network does play a bigger variety of music than what Radio 2 plays |
Well, no it doesn't - it plays music that falls under the category of "smooth" - mostly soul and RnB. Not nearly as much variety as Radio 2 (even if you count their weekend shows).
Quote: | and not all the new stuff |
I like new stuff!
Quote: | and its not a national station. |
It may as well be - I haven't come across anything particularly "local" on the Manchester version.
Quote: | It plays a lot of different music from the 60's and 70's which radio 2 dont' play all the time. |
When I've listened, it's played the exact same 60s and 70s standards that crop up on Steve Wright every 2 weeks. |
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Shouldn't "Smooth FM" be re-branded "Lift Music FM"????? It's about as bland...... much like many stations these days. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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firewirefred wrote: | Shouldn't "Smooth FM" be re-branded "Lift Music FM"????? It's about as bland...... much like many stations these days. |
Depends which one you are listening too? |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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firewirefred wrote: | Shouldn't "Smooth FM" be re-branded "Lift Music FM"????? It's about as bland...... much like many stations these days. |
Horses for courses. Sometimes its what you want to hear, sometimes not. That's what's great about choice. Shame most people dont tune around more really. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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firewirefred Guest
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | firewirefred wrote: | Shouldn't "Smooth FM" be re-branded "Lift Music FM"????? It's about as bland...... much like many stations these days. |
Depends which one you are listening too? |
Uh? You mean there are more? No thanks!
gfloyd wrote: | Horses for courses. Sometimes its what you want to hear, sometimes not. That's what's great about choice. Shame most people dont tune around more really. |
Tuning around mainstream UK radio stations is a complete waste of effort. Since the de-regulation of broadcasting and the watering-down of regulators' powers (not to mention the ubiquitous GCap group whose radio stations are all from the same mould) UK radio has really gone down the pan. With even good old R2 hurtling down the road of banality and mediocrity it's barely worth switching radio tuners on these days - unless it's Radio 4. Long live Radio 4. |
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SantaFefan
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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